Posts by Lady Lee

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to those that lived thru the "end" fa...

by scootergirl in

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i was reading the thread about 2015 being the "new" end of the times and had a question to those that were in the borg around 1975 when the end was to come then.

i was only 7 and new to the borg, so i don't remember, but what exactly was everyone expecting?

fire and brimstone?

Lady Lee

1975 Yup I was there

In 1972 when I got pregnant my mother chastized me because "she will never even get to school in this old system" Well she went to school grew up, graduated and her daughter is now in school.

I remember 1975 very well. I was 22 and had been going to meeting for 11 yrs and had been baptized for 4 yrs. Everytime there was an earthquake or war or storm we wondered and waited for it to start thinking we would have to escape the cities and hide out in the country somewhere. I knew some brothers who had bomb shelters ready with enough food and weapons - yes weapons to defend themsleves in case worldly people attacked them My husband and I decided we would let Jehovah protect us from the destruction.

At the summer convention we listened intently. We thought that the assembly would be a good time for it to start because we were gathered together making it easier for Jehovah to protect us. Nothing happened.

We looked forward to Oct 1 when there would be the annual meeting. Surely it would start then - How appropriate that it would start at the beginning of the "right" year. And since all JWs would be gathered all around the world in groups then THIS would be the right time. Anxoiusly we and all the friends went to the meetings. And all of us left with mixed feelings. It didn't happen - New Light - needed time for naming the animals and creating Eve and then their sinning. Ok just a few more years but certainly not long now.

They kept us hanging - dangling the carrot in front of us and constantly moving it just beyond our grasp and then telling us it was our fault of expecting it so soon. And we bought it hook line and sinker.

Edited by - Lady Lee on 13 June 2002 0:15:30

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Saying Goodbye.....this is hard...

by flower in

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goodbye!

(actually that wasnt too hard..) .

i'm of to cancun day after tomorrow and i may be too busy to get on before then so see ya in about a week!!

Lady Lee

I knew where you were going.

Have a great birthday trip flower and hey when you get back you'll be a year older.

...

Mind you so will I

Happy Birthday flower

Pstt June 14th for those who don't know

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Really Need To Talk

by Moridin in

i really need to talk and try to get some things out.

i am one of the managers at a local fast food restaraunt.

we live in a quiet town and on friday night after one in the morning one of my employees and i went outside to take out the trash.

Lady Lee

Well sounds like you are pretty normal even if you don't feel like it.. It takes a day or so for the shock to waer off and the feeling to start taking over.

Just try focusing on your breathing especially if you get panicky. Orient yourself to where you are and remind yourself that you are safe.

Feel free to print some of the suggestions out that people have offered and share them with your employee.

And remind yourself that just because you didn't get hurt on the outside doesn't mean you didn't get hurt on the inside.

Sometimes the people who are physically hurt have a slightly easier time of recovering emotionally. The have the scars and injuries - proof of haw bad it was.

For those who do not get physically hurt there often is a lot of "What if......" thinking that can become part of the trauma itself. It is hard not to do it but try as much as you can to stay with what DID happen instead of what if...

Take care --- Lady Lee

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What are some of the lousiest jobs out there?

by Soledad in

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i think that any job that involves customer service or dealing with the public really sucks!

i used to be a bank teller for 4 years, i finally got fired for letting this one obnoxious customer really have it!

some of the worst type of customers were the ones who left their brains who knows where.

Lady Lee

Some jobs I have had

waitress - hated it

day care - not too bad except the cleaning up

offset printer - loved it except the cleaning up

housewife/mother great except the cleaning up

packer in a perfume factory - hated it especially the cleaning up

car jockey - loved it no clean-up

Nurses assistant hated it especially the clean-up

residental care worker - loved the people hated the job especially the clean up

counselor - love it adore it my passion - no clean up

elder's wife hated it - all clean up

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JW Family Tries Black-Mailing Me

by Prisca in

i have spent the last week or so with my sister and bro-in-law and my 6year old niece, all jws.

they live in a town not too far away from me, and i visit them every couple of months or so.

my sister and i are close, not extremely so, but we appreciate each other as we have no other bros & sisters, our mother died 21yrs ago, and our father treats us as though we are dead too (due to non-jw issues).. last time i went to visit them, my bro-in-law asked my niece to ask me if i'd go to the meeting.

Lady Lee

(((Prisca)))

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Really Need To Talk

by Moridin in

i really need to talk and try to get some things out.

i am one of the managers at a local fast food restaraunt.

we live in a quiet town and on friday night after one in the morning one of my employees and i went outside to take out the trash.

Lady Lee

Hmm if he is the one that did this then I think the choice is to testify as to what happened and maybe he goes to jail for life or don't testify and he stays out and does this to someone else.

Try not to feel guilty for doing what is right. Remind yourself of that. If he did this - whever did this deserves to be put away - for his sake and that of other innocent victims

Continue to care for yourself and (((HUGS)))

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Does Watchtower Society monitor this board?

by Quotes in

i've seen it mentioned many times in many threads: "the society monitors jwd, don't post anything you don't want them to know etc.

i have even made that point myself in the past.. my question is this: does the wtbts monitor this discussion board?.

or have we all been propagating our own xjw urban myth?.

Lady Lee

I know! I know!

It's Farkel

He's in the basement of the Stanley Theatre - he's on the inside pretending to be on the outside.

I'm right... huh?... huh?... I knew it!!!!!!!

Bwaaahahahahaaaaaahhahahaaaaaaaahahahaha

Sorry Farkel I just couldn't help myself --- Really - wanna buy some swampland?

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Admit doubts

by Realist in

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would a jw ever admit that s/he has doubts about the wt teachings?

do they have the order to pretend they believe everything or could they discuss what bothers them?.

i assume they have to pretend they think everything is dandy and the teachings logical when they speak with elders or other witnesses.

Lady Lee

Hmm I think that while I was a JW there was this feeling that we must protect the reputation of Jehovah's organization - at all costs. That was the party line. You should do nothing say nothing or infer nothing to bring reproach.

I think that for many people the idea of being a member of something so all-emcompassing means that you support it - no matter what. The only option is to leave which for many isn't an option until the cognitive dissonamce gets too loud.

If a JW speaks with a non-JW about the doubts then they have to acknowledging that Ithey are not whole-souled - pretty close to the unpardonable sin for a lot of JWs. I agree that there is the fear that another JW may find out but I think the greater problem here is not that JWs don't acknowledge their doubts to others but JWs are taught not to even acknowledge these doubts to themselves. They are taught that doubting is the very equivalent of doubting God and that could result in eternal condemnation and death.

This is a scary prospect for most JWs. Even scarier is the possibility of being hauled in for a judicial committee meeting to explain why you have doubts and the prospect of being cast out and separated from family, friends, community, and Jehovah AKA "mother" WT

Doubting bears heavy consequences and most JWs are taught to censor their thoughts so they do not sin

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Really Need To Talk

by Moridin in

i really need to talk and try to get some things out.

i am one of the managers at a local fast food restaraunt.

we live in a quiet town and on friday night after one in the morning one of my employees and i went outside to take out the trash.

Lady Lee

Ok just read your last post the guilt thing. That too is normal and called survivor guilt.

People have a hard time with this especially those who are in charge and men. We are taught that we should be in control and when this doesn't happen we take on the guilt. It wasn't your fault. You fdid what you could and it would not have helped anyone especially the girl if you had gotten hurt and then could not help her. The fact is you were able to help her.

You may never know why they left when they did - just try to be thankful because by leaving when they did you got to get her to the hospital as quickly as possible. Try to focus on some of the good things you were able to do. Getting yourself hurt would not have helped anyone.

You may have a lot of BUTS.... to this and that too is normal.

One more thing the city/police may be able to help you regarding cleaning up the blood. Blood is considered dangerous now and there are special procedures used to clean it up. Ask the police or hospital about it.